1 00:00:00,375 --> 00:00:02,127 [exhales sharply] 2 00:00:02,127 --> 00:00:03,337 - Well, thank you very much, Mr Garabedian, 3 00:00:03,337 --> 00:00:05,339 we are interviewing a number of people, 4 00:00:05,339 --> 00:00:07,216 and we'll let you know as soon as we've 5 00:00:07,216 --> 00:00:09,134 made our final decision. 6 00:00:09,134 --> 00:00:13,388 - Before I leave, I want to say two words to you, class action. 7 00:00:13,388 --> 00:00:16,058 Whether we're talking about negligently-manufactured 8 00:00:16,058 --> 00:00:18,352 pacemakers or defective farm machinery, 9 00:00:18,352 --> 00:00:20,395 I believe that multiple plaintiff lawsuits 10 00:00:20,395 --> 00:00:23,357 will generate heap big moolah. 11 00:00:23,357 --> 00:00:28,153 And I am just the boy to do it. 12 00:00:28,153 --> 00:00:30,113 - Huh, thank you. 13 00:00:30,113 --> 00:00:31,031 - Thank you. 14 00:00:33,325 --> 00:00:35,369 - How many more of these do we have to see today? 15 00:00:35,369 --> 00:00:37,371 - Five more. 16 00:00:37,371 --> 00:00:39,122 - I can't do this. 17 00:00:39,122 --> 00:00:41,124 You guys hire whoever you want to hire. 18 00:00:41,124 --> 00:00:43,085 I just-- I can't do this anymore. 19 00:00:43,085 --> 00:00:43,418 - Hello? 20 00:00:43,418 --> 00:00:45,087 - Uh, you're? 21 00:00:45,087 --> 00:00:47,047 - Jane Halliday. 22 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:48,298 - I'm Douglas Brackman. 23 00:00:48,298 --> 00:00:51,260 This is Ann Kelsey, Jonathan Rollins, and Arnold Becker. 24 00:00:51,260 --> 00:00:52,302 - Hi. 25 00:00:52,302 --> 00:00:56,139 - Arnold, are you staying? 26 00:00:56,139 --> 00:00:58,225 - Why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself? 27 00:00:58,225 --> 00:01:00,102 - I'm from Oklahoma. 28 00:01:00,102 --> 00:01:02,145 Went to Harvard Law School. 29 00:01:02,145 --> 00:01:05,315 I clerked for a federal judge for a year after graduation. 30 00:01:05,315 --> 00:01:07,484 Following that, I worked in the district attorney's office 31 00:01:07,484 --> 00:01:09,361 in Oklahoma City for two years. 32 00:01:09,361 --> 00:01:11,238 - What made you want to relocate out here? 33 00:01:11,238 --> 00:01:13,156 - Well, I have family out here. 34 00:01:13,156 --> 00:01:17,202 Also, I felt I could benefit by broadening my horizons a bit. 35 00:01:17,202 --> 00:01:20,163 - Is there any particular area you'd like to specialize in? 36 00:01:20,163 --> 00:01:21,456 - At this point in my career, I'd 37 00:01:21,456 --> 00:01:24,293 just assume to be guided by what needs present themselves. 38 00:01:24,293 --> 00:01:26,295 I'd be happy to do whatever you need me to do. 39 00:01:26,295 --> 00:01:28,130 - It says on your resume that you 40 00:01:28,130 --> 00:01:30,090 attended Bob Jones University. 41 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:31,216 - Yes. 42 00:01:31,216 --> 00:01:32,301 - That's a religious school, isn't it? 43 00:01:32,301 --> 00:01:33,302 - Yes, it is. 44 00:01:33,302 --> 00:01:34,469 It's a Christian college. 45 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:36,388 - A fundamentalist Christian college. 46 00:01:36,388 --> 00:01:38,140 - Yes. 47 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:40,225 - Are you a fundamentalist Christian? 48 00:01:40,225 --> 00:01:41,435 - Yes, I am. 49 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:44,313 - Well, forgive me for saying this, but this firm 50 00:01:44,313 --> 00:01:47,274 seems an unlikely setting for a fundamentalist Christian 51 00:01:47,274 --> 00:01:49,151 to want to be in. 52 00:01:49,151 --> 00:01:52,237 - Perhaps it is, but I made a decision to pursue a career 53 00:01:52,237 --> 00:01:55,365 and to work and live in a more mainstream environment 54 00:01:55,365 --> 00:01:57,200 than the one I grew up in. 55 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,536 Your firm is very well regarded in the legal community, 56 00:01:59,536 --> 00:02:02,456 and I think I could benefit from working here. 57 00:02:02,456 --> 00:02:05,292 And I also think that I could make a contribution. 58 00:02:05,292 --> 00:02:06,501 - Miss Halliday, you might find us 59 00:02:06,501 --> 00:02:09,254 something of a godless bunch. 60 00:02:09,254 --> 00:02:11,340 - I think you'll find that I'm really pretty accepting 61 00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:13,175 of people, Mr Rollins. 62 00:02:13,175 --> 00:02:15,177 And I don't think any of us are godless. 63 00:02:15,177 --> 00:02:18,180 - Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, 64 00:02:18,180 --> 00:02:21,308 I will fear no evil, for thou art with me. 65 00:02:21,308 --> 00:02:24,186 - Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. 66 00:02:24,186 --> 00:02:27,356 Thou preparest a table for me before mine enemies, 67 00:02:27,356 --> 00:02:29,399 thou anointest my head with oil. 68 00:02:29,399 --> 00:02:31,276 My cup runneth over. 69 00:02:31,276 --> 00:02:33,362 Surely, goodness and mercy shall follow 70 00:02:33,362 --> 00:02:37,240 me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the House 71 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,575 of the Lord forever. 72 00:02:38,575 --> 00:02:41,578 - Amen. 73 00:02:41,578 --> 00:02:43,455 - Well. 74 00:02:43,455 --> 00:02:46,249 - It was very nice meeting all of you. 75 00:02:46,249 --> 00:02:48,251 - And it was nice meeting you, Ms. Halliday. 76 00:02:48,251 --> 00:02:50,337 We'll let you know as soon as we've made our decision. 77 00:02:50,337 --> 00:02:51,296 - Thank you. 78 00:02:58,553 --> 00:02:59,471 - What? 79 00:02:59,471 --> 00:03:03,517 [theme music] 80 00:04:48,455 --> 00:04:51,500 [chatter] 81 00:04:57,339 --> 00:04:59,382 - When is the table going to be ready, Douglas? 82 00:04:59,382 --> 00:05:01,384 - They said another week. 83 00:05:01,384 --> 00:05:02,302 - Unbelievable. 84 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:03,345 - Yeah, dust. 85 00:05:03,345 --> 00:05:04,429 Everywhere is dust. - Hi. 86 00:05:04,429 --> 00:05:05,597 - Is this it? - Yeah. 87 00:05:05,597 --> 00:05:07,557 - This renovation is taking on epic proportions. 88 00:05:07,557 --> 00:05:10,310 - When are they telling us now it's going to be done? 89 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:10,685 - End of the month. 90 00:05:10,685 --> 00:05:12,479 - End of which month? 91 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:14,481 - Fellas, could you hold it down. 92 00:05:14,481 --> 00:05:16,650 We are going to try to get some work done around here. 93 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:18,610 Folks, if we could get down to business. 94 00:05:18,610 --> 00:05:20,737 Interviews are ongoing for new associates. 95 00:05:20,737 --> 00:05:22,739 I'd like to have someone hired by the end of the week, 96 00:05:22,739 --> 00:05:24,407 if possible. 97 00:05:24,407 --> 00:05:25,742 - Well, I think it's safe to say that 98 00:05:25,742 --> 00:05:28,411 as far as Arnold's concerned, we ought to be done looking now. 99 00:05:28,411 --> 00:05:31,414 - I trust that what we witnessed was momentary infatuation 100 00:05:31,414 --> 00:05:32,624 and nothing more than that. 101 00:05:32,624 --> 00:05:34,334 - We'll see all the candidates, we'll make a decision. 102 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:35,544 Like everyone else, I want whoever 103 00:05:35,544 --> 00:05:37,379 is best qualified for the job. 104 00:05:37,379 --> 00:05:38,421 - What are you looking at? 105 00:05:38,421 --> 00:05:40,674 - What am I looking at? 106 00:05:40,674 --> 00:05:42,717 I'm looking at the prize in the Cracker Jack box. 107 00:05:42,717 --> 00:05:44,469 I'm looking at the big brass ring 108 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:45,637 and the merry-go-round of life. 109 00:05:45,637 --> 00:05:47,347 - What are you looking at? 110 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:51,434 - The Bentley Continental R. 111 00:05:51,434 --> 00:05:52,644 - You're getting a Bentley? 112 00:05:52,644 --> 00:05:53,645 - Yes, I am. 113 00:05:53,645 --> 00:05:54,563 - How much? 114 00:05:54,563 --> 00:05:56,565 - List is $275,000. 115 00:05:56,565 --> 00:06:00,527 - You're spending $275,000 for a car? 116 00:06:00,527 --> 00:06:01,611 - You think that's excessive? 117 00:06:01,611 --> 00:06:03,488 [chuckles] 118 00:06:03,488 --> 00:06:05,699 - Folks, as compelling as this conversation is, I'd really 119 00:06:05,699 --> 00:06:08,535 like to get some work done before the sounds of hammering 120 00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:09,619 drives me completely crazy. 121 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:11,454 - You're running the meeting, Douglas. 122 00:06:11,454 --> 00:06:12,664 Run the meeting. 123 00:06:12,664 --> 00:06:15,458 - Kincaid versus Owens, Pierce, McIntyre, and Reynolds. 124 00:06:15,458 --> 00:06:16,710 - That's mine. 125 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:19,462 Judith Kincaid is suing her law firm for sexual discrimination 126 00:06:19,462 --> 00:06:22,382 under Title VII for their failure to make her a partner. 127 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:23,675 - Yeah, but for the grace of God, go we? 128 00:06:23,675 --> 00:06:26,636 - There are no female partners at Owen, Pierce, Douglas. 129 00:06:26,636 --> 00:06:28,722 Not even one like there is here. 130 00:06:28,722 --> 00:06:30,432 - Can this case be settled? 131 00:06:30,432 --> 00:06:31,683 - The offers we received were insulting. 132 00:06:31,683 --> 00:06:33,685 - Let's try not to get too much of a reputation 133 00:06:33,685 --> 00:06:36,438 as a repository for litigious and embittered females, 134 00:06:36,438 --> 00:06:36,771 shall we, Ann? 135 00:06:36,771 --> 00:06:38,440 - Moving on. 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,566 [knock on door] - Excuse me. 137 00:06:39,566 --> 00:06:40,567 - Eli. 138 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:41,568 - Is this a bad time? 139 00:06:41,568 --> 00:06:42,736 - No, it's a very good time. 140 00:06:42,736 --> 00:06:44,696 Everybody, this is my cousin, Eli Levinson. 141 00:06:44,696 --> 00:06:45,780 - How do you do? 142 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:47,574 - Stuart told us you're involved in that 143 00:06:47,574 --> 00:06:49,659 case of the-- the social worker who was killed. 144 00:06:49,659 --> 00:06:51,745 - The parents of the accused are all friends of my family, 145 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:53,622 I'm out here on their behalf. 146 00:06:53,622 --> 00:06:55,540 - Well, if there's anything any of us can do to assist you, 147 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:56,499 please let us know. 148 00:06:56,499 --> 00:06:57,584 - Thank you. 149 00:06:57,584 --> 00:06:59,461 - There's a vacant office you can use, 150 00:06:59,461 --> 00:07:00,712 but we're a little shorthanded in the secretarial department. 151 00:07:00,712 --> 00:07:02,464 - Oh, please don't worry about it. 152 00:07:02,464 --> 00:07:03,757 You're being extremely gracious. 153 00:07:03,757 --> 00:07:06,468 I'll make my own arrangements as it concerns a secretary. 154 00:07:06,468 --> 00:07:10,639 - Do you think $275,000 is too much to spend on a car? 155 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:12,474 - I don't know. 156 00:07:12,474 --> 00:07:13,725 - I bust my ass working, I'm at the top of my field, 157 00:07:13,725 --> 00:07:18,521 I have no dependents, who should own a Bentley, if not me? 158 00:07:18,521 --> 00:07:21,483 - Will it make you happy? 159 00:07:21,483 --> 00:07:22,817 - Yes, it will. 160 00:07:22,817 --> 00:07:25,654 - Then you should own it. 161 00:07:25,654 --> 00:07:28,698 - A wise man arrives from the east. 162 00:07:28,698 --> 00:07:29,866 Nice to meet you, Eli. 163 00:07:29,866 --> 00:07:31,493 - Nice to meet you. 164 00:07:34,496 --> 00:07:36,873 - You think there's any chance he'll be glad to see us here? 165 00:07:36,873 --> 00:07:39,501 - My God, with the trouble he's in, 166 00:07:39,501 --> 00:07:41,461 you'd think he'd be thrilled to see us. 167 00:07:41,461 --> 00:07:43,672 - I think you should be prepared for that not to be the case. 168 00:07:43,672 --> 00:07:46,716 [buzzer] 169 00:07:47,592 --> 00:07:49,844 - Oh, Sandy. 170 00:07:49,844 --> 00:07:52,764 - How are you doing, son? 171 00:07:52,764 --> 00:07:54,557 - Who's that? 172 00:07:54,557 --> 00:07:56,851 - This is Eli Levinson, an attorney who's 173 00:07:56,851 --> 00:07:58,728 come with us from New York. 174 00:07:58,728 --> 00:08:00,689 - What for? 175 00:08:00,689 --> 00:08:02,899 - Because you need an attorney, because you have a little bit 176 00:08:02,899 --> 00:08:06,653 of difficulty here. 177 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:11,741 - Do you still have my Beatles album, Yesterday and Today? 178 00:08:15,662 --> 00:08:17,580 - We probably do. 179 00:08:17,580 --> 00:08:19,833 I haven't thrown anything of yours away. 180 00:08:19,833 --> 00:08:21,793 Certainly, not your record collection. 181 00:08:21,793 --> 00:08:24,629 - Well, it's the album cover with the Beatles 182 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:25,755 in butcher coats. 183 00:08:25,755 --> 00:08:27,799 See I steamed off the album cover 184 00:08:27,799 --> 00:08:29,592 it was sold with because it's got 185 00:08:29,592 --> 00:08:32,804 the original one underneath. 186 00:08:32,804 --> 00:08:34,723 It's probably worth a fair amount of money. 187 00:08:34,723 --> 00:08:36,558 - Should we send for it? 188 00:08:36,558 --> 00:08:37,851 Do you want to have it here? 189 00:08:37,851 --> 00:08:40,478 - No, thinking you should sell it. 190 00:08:44,733 --> 00:08:45,734 [knock on glass] 191 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:47,610 I want to go back now. 192 00:08:47,610 --> 00:08:50,697 - Hey, Ray, why don't you give us a minute by ourselves? 193 00:08:58,788 --> 00:08:59,914 - I'll see you soon, son. 194 00:09:07,797 --> 00:09:11,843 [door closes] 195 00:09:17,766 --> 00:09:18,850 - Sandy? 196 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:22,854 [exhales sharply] 197 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:27,859 - Sandy? 198 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:33,823 You don't know me and I don't know you. 199 00:09:35,992 --> 00:09:38,661 You've been charged with murder. 200 00:09:38,661 --> 00:09:39,871 That means you need to have someone 201 00:09:39,871 --> 00:09:43,708 paying very close attention to what happens to you. 202 00:09:43,708 --> 00:09:45,794 - Do you have a cigarette? 203 00:09:45,794 --> 00:09:47,796 - I don't smoke. 204 00:09:47,796 --> 00:09:49,923 - I didn't ask you if you smoke, I asked 205 00:09:49,923 --> 00:09:50,965 you if you had a cigarette. 206 00:09:50,965 --> 00:09:53,760 [scoffs] 207 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,805 - I don't. 208 00:09:56,805 --> 00:10:02,685 Sandy, there's a preliminary hearing scheduled for tomorrow. 209 00:10:02,685 --> 00:10:04,687 Do you have any problem with me representing you 210 00:10:04,687 --> 00:10:06,648 at that hearing? 211 00:10:06,648 --> 00:10:07,649 - No. 212 00:10:07,649 --> 00:10:07,982 - Good. 213 00:10:10,693 --> 00:10:12,779 Is there anything you can tell me about the crime 214 00:10:12,779 --> 00:10:13,863 you're being charged with? 215 00:10:13,863 --> 00:10:16,699 - No. 216 00:10:16,699 --> 00:10:18,660 - OK. 217 00:10:18,660 --> 00:10:20,703 - Can I go now? 218 00:10:20,703 --> 00:10:21,663 - Sure. 219 00:10:25,959 --> 00:10:28,670 See you tomorrow. 220 00:10:28,670 --> 00:10:30,755 - Yeah, who are you again? 221 00:10:30,755 --> 00:10:31,756 - I'm your lawyer, kid. 222 00:10:37,595 --> 00:10:40,807 [door shuts] 223 00:10:40,807 --> 00:10:42,851 - How long did you work at Owen, Pierce, McIntyre, 224 00:10:42,851 --> 00:10:43,977 and Reynolds, Ms. Kincaid? 225 00:10:43,977 --> 00:10:45,687 - Eight years. 226 00:10:45,687 --> 00:10:47,939 I was hired right out of law school. 227 00:10:47,939 --> 00:10:51,818 - What were you told about your performance during that time? 228 00:10:51,818 --> 00:10:54,821 - I was told that my analytical skills were first rate, as were 229 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:58,032 my briefs, as was my performance as a litigator, 230 00:10:58,032 --> 00:11:00,910 as was my ability to supervise other associates. 231 00:11:00,910 --> 00:11:02,871 - Were any conversations held with reference 232 00:11:02,871 --> 00:11:03,955 to your being made partner? 233 00:11:03,955 --> 00:11:05,748 - Yes. 234 00:11:05,748 --> 00:11:07,792 In June of 1989, I came up for partnership review. 235 00:11:07,792 --> 00:11:09,043 - What were you told? 236 00:11:09,043 --> 00:11:11,796 - I was told that while my work as an attorney was outstanding, 237 00:11:11,796 --> 00:11:16,009 my quote unquote "people skills" needed some adjustment. 238 00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:20,722 I was told that I could be abrasive, I could be terse, 239 00:11:20,722 --> 00:11:22,807 and I was told that I lacked a sense of humor. 240 00:11:22,807 --> 00:11:23,850 - How did you respond? 241 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:24,976 - I said that I would work on it. 242 00:11:24,976 --> 00:11:26,728 - Did you work on it? 243 00:11:26,728 --> 00:11:28,021 - Yes, I tried to be a little more patient 244 00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:29,939 in dealing with associates. 245 00:11:29,939 --> 00:11:33,943 Tried to explain myself more, even tried 246 00:11:33,943 --> 00:11:35,820 telling an occasional joke. 247 00:11:35,820 --> 00:11:37,864 - Would you tell the court what happened the next time you 248 00:11:37,864 --> 00:11:39,782 came up for partnership review? 249 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:43,786 - I was told that I wasn't on the partnership track, period. 250 00:11:43,786 --> 00:11:45,872 - Did any of the partners at Owen, Pierce, McIntyre, 251 00:11:45,872 --> 00:11:47,040 and Reynolds tell you why? 252 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,958 - Steve Bullock did. 253 00:11:48,958 --> 00:11:51,002 I went into his office and asked him, point blank, why I wasn't 254 00:11:51,002 --> 00:11:52,795 being considered for partner. 255 00:11:52,795 --> 00:11:54,964 He said, Judith, I'll deny it if you ever quote me, 256 00:11:54,964 --> 00:11:58,843 but the truth is, you're just too butch. 257 00:11:58,843 --> 00:12:00,053 - I have no further questions. 258 00:12:02,931 --> 00:12:06,851 - Would you say that one's ability to get along 259 00:12:06,851 --> 00:12:10,813 with other people was in any way significant in evaluating one's 260 00:12:10,813 --> 00:12:12,023 performance as an attorney? 261 00:12:12,023 --> 00:12:14,150 - I get along with people just fine, Mr. McCafferty. 262 00:12:14,150 --> 00:12:16,027 - Do you? 263 00:12:16,027 --> 00:12:21,115 February 10, 1991, an associate by the name of Robin Michael, 264 00:12:21,115 --> 00:12:24,077 after working 14 hour days for two weeks straight, 265 00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:28,081 was leaving the office at 6:00 PM to attend a hockey game. 266 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:29,999 You stopped him at the door, told him you'll 267 00:12:29,999 --> 00:12:32,001 have him fired if he went. 268 00:12:32,001 --> 00:12:34,796 - I was waiting on research he was responsible for. 269 00:12:34,796 --> 00:12:36,798 - It couldn't have waited till the following day? 270 00:12:36,798 --> 00:12:37,966 - No. 271 00:12:37,966 --> 00:12:41,886 - December 14, 1990, you initiated a confrontation 272 00:12:41,886 --> 00:12:44,013 with Bob Connolly, a senior member at the firm, 273 00:12:44,013 --> 00:12:46,808 because of an imagined slight. 274 00:12:46,808 --> 00:12:48,977 And you saw fit to do so in front of a client. 275 00:12:48,977 --> 00:12:50,812 - It wasn't imagined. 276 00:12:50,812 --> 00:12:52,105 I felt as though Bob Connolly had 277 00:12:52,105 --> 00:12:55,024 addressed me in a condescending tone of voice. 278 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:56,943 - Would you tell us, Ms. Kincaid, 279 00:12:56,943 --> 00:12:59,862 what you hoped to accomplish by initiating a confrontation 280 00:12:59,862 --> 00:13:01,114 in front of a client? 281 00:13:01,114 --> 00:13:04,826 - I didn't hope to accomplish anything, Mr. McCafferty. 282 00:13:04,826 --> 00:13:06,869 I did it because I found Mr. Connolly's 283 00:13:06,869 --> 00:13:09,956 behavior intolerable. 284 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,000 - Do you fit in at Owen, Pierce, McIntyre, 285 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,001 and Reynolds, Miss Kincaid? 286 00:13:13,001 --> 00:13:14,043 - Objection. 287 00:13:14,043 --> 00:13:15,837 - I wasn't allowed to fit in. 288 00:13:15,837 --> 00:13:19,007 I'm not sexy, I'm not funny, and I don't 289 00:13:19,007 --> 00:13:20,967 know the secret handshake. 290 00:13:20,967 --> 00:13:23,094 If they didn't want me around, they should have said so. 291 00:13:23,094 --> 00:13:25,930 - Oh, I think in a manner of speaking, that's what they did, 292 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:27,056 isn't it, Ms. Kincaid? 293 00:13:27,056 --> 00:13:29,976 - I put my heart and soul into that job. 294 00:13:29,976 --> 00:13:31,853 I held back nothing. 295 00:13:31,853 --> 00:13:34,063 If they weren't prepared to treat me like a colleague, 296 00:13:34,063 --> 00:13:37,025 they shouldn't have hired me in the first place. 297 00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:41,904 They shouldn't have stolen eight years of my life. 298 00:13:41,904 --> 00:13:42,947 - I'm finished, your honor. 299 00:13:47,035 --> 00:13:51,080 [music playing] 300 00:14:04,052 --> 00:14:05,887 - Eli. - Hi, Denise. 301 00:14:05,887 --> 00:14:07,055 - I can't believe it's you. Get in. 302 00:14:07,055 --> 00:14:08,890 - I can't believe what you're driving. 303 00:14:08,890 --> 00:14:11,142 - Hey, if you're going to have a car have a car. 304 00:14:11,142 --> 00:14:12,143 Good to see you. 305 00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:17,106 - So you and Jeffrey are finished? 306 00:14:17,106 --> 00:14:18,941 - Yeah, we're divorced. 307 00:14:18,941 --> 00:14:20,109 - I'm sorry to hear that. 308 00:14:20,109 --> 00:14:21,986 - Hey, it's for the best, anyway, believe me. 309 00:14:21,986 --> 00:14:23,196 We would have killed each other if we 310 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:24,280 would have stayed together. 311 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,074 - How's his health? 312 00:14:26,074 --> 00:14:28,284 - Mentally, he's terminal, physically, he's fine. 313 00:14:28,284 --> 00:14:29,202 [chuckles] 314 00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:30,119 How's Sidney? 315 00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:31,079 - Good. 316 00:14:31,079 --> 00:14:31,996 - Charlie? 317 00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:33,164 - Good. 318 00:14:33,164 --> 00:14:35,041 Everybody's just where they were when you left. 319 00:14:35,041 --> 00:14:37,001 - You know, I think about guys a lot. 320 00:14:37,001 --> 00:14:37,919 - Yeah? 321 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:39,921 - Yeah. 322 00:14:39,921 --> 00:14:42,048 - So what have you been doing since you are out here? 323 00:14:42,048 --> 00:14:44,217 - Uh, you know, a little bit of this, a little bit of that. 324 00:14:44,217 --> 00:14:47,053 You know, looking for a job, meeting people, 325 00:14:47,053 --> 00:14:50,223 going on a lot of blind dates, checking out the local culture. 326 00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:52,016 - It's not much like New York, is it? 327 00:14:52,016 --> 00:14:53,893 - It's not anything like New York. 328 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:56,104 It's clean, sunny all the time. 329 00:14:56,104 --> 00:14:57,980 Nobody jaywalks. 330 00:14:57,980 --> 00:14:59,982 Nobody knows how to dress. 331 00:14:59,982 --> 00:15:00,983 Other than that, I love it. 332 00:15:00,983 --> 00:15:02,985 [chuckles] 333 00:15:02,985 --> 00:15:04,278 - You want to work for me while I'm in town? 334 00:15:04,278 --> 00:15:05,947 - Do you need somebody? 335 00:15:05,947 --> 00:15:06,989 - Yes, I need somebody. 336 00:15:06,989 --> 00:15:09,033 - Oh, I would love to work for you. 337 00:15:09,033 --> 00:15:10,159 - In addition to everything else, 338 00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:11,327 I could use some help getting around town. 339 00:15:11,327 --> 00:15:12,328 - What do you mean? 340 00:15:12,328 --> 00:15:13,996 - I don't drive. 341 00:15:13,996 --> 00:15:15,164 - What do you mean, you don't drive? 342 00:15:15,164 --> 00:15:16,999 - I've lived in New York City all my life. 343 00:15:16,999 --> 00:15:18,167 Denise, I never learned to drive. 344 00:15:18,167 --> 00:15:20,044 - I'll be your driver. 345 00:15:20,044 --> 00:15:21,212 - Great. 346 00:15:21,212 --> 00:15:23,131 - You know, you don't know how much 347 00:15:23,131 --> 00:15:25,258 easier it is to get around out here than it is in New York. 348 00:15:25,258 --> 00:15:27,009 I mean, it hardly ever rains. 349 00:15:27,009 --> 00:15:29,178 You never ever have to fight for a cab. 350 00:15:29,178 --> 00:15:31,139 People are courteous. They're more relaxed, you know. 351 00:15:31,139 --> 00:15:33,099 They're not always trying to kill each other. 352 00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:36,936 [music playing] 353 00:15:37,228 --> 00:15:39,105 What are you looking at? 354 00:15:39,105 --> 00:15:43,109 - I'm looking at you, and I'm liking what I see. 355 00:15:43,109 --> 00:15:44,026 - Oh, really? 356 00:15:44,026 --> 00:15:45,069 - That's right. 357 00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:46,195 Give me your telephone number. 358 00:15:46,195 --> 00:15:47,238 - Drop dead. 359 00:15:47,238 --> 00:15:49,031 - Give me your telephone number. 360 00:15:49,031 --> 00:15:49,365 - Let's go. 361 00:15:49,365 --> 00:15:50,283 - Come on. 362 00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:56,247 - Court will come to order, Judge Shays presiding. 363 00:16:00,251 --> 00:16:03,212 - Be seated. 364 00:16:03,212 --> 00:16:05,131 People versus Sandy Morrison. 365 00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:07,300 - Thomas Mullaney for the prosecution, your honor. 366 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,302 The defendant is charged under Section 367 00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:12,221 189 of the California Penal Code with murder 368 00:16:12,221 --> 00:16:13,347 in the first degree. 369 00:16:13,347 --> 00:16:15,016 - My name is Eli Levinson, your honor. 370 00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:16,100 I'm an attorney licensed to practice 371 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:17,351 in the state of New York. 372 00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:20,146 My appearance on Mr. Morrison's behalf is pro hac vice. 373 00:16:20,146 --> 00:16:23,065 - Do you have supporting papers for a pro hac vice appearance? 374 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:23,357 - I do. 375 00:16:23,357 --> 00:16:24,275 - Approach. 376 00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:32,074 Is your client prepared to enter a plea? 377 00:16:32,074 --> 00:16:33,284 - At this point, your honor, I really 378 00:16:33,284 --> 00:16:35,077 haven't had an adequate opportunity 379 00:16:35,077 --> 00:16:36,204 to confer with my client. 380 00:16:36,204 --> 00:16:38,080 I beg the court's indulgence that he might 381 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,248 enter a plea at a later date. 382 00:16:39,248 --> 00:16:40,333 - I'll set it of down for Thursday. 383 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:42,043 Is that all right, Mr. Mullaney? 384 00:16:42,043 --> 00:16:43,252 - Yes, it is, your honor. 385 00:16:43,252 --> 00:16:45,129 - At this time, your honor, I would also move for Mr. 386 00:16:45,129 --> 00:16:47,048 Mullaney's disqualification. 387 00:16:47,048 --> 00:16:48,216 - On what grounds? 388 00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:50,051 - On the grounds that my appearance in the state 389 00:16:50,051 --> 00:16:51,302 of California is an association with a firm of McKenzie, 390 00:16:51,302 --> 00:16:54,180 Brackman, Becker, Kelsey, Markowitz, and Morales, a firm 391 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:56,140 of which I believe Mr. Mullaney was a member. 392 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:57,350 - Your honor, I haven't been a member 393 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,143 of the firm for more than a year, 394 00:16:59,143 --> 00:17:02,188 and I haven't met Mr. Levinson until today. 395 00:17:02,188 --> 00:17:04,065 - I'm going to have to take this matter 396 00:17:04,065 --> 00:17:05,191 under advisement, gentlemen. 397 00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:07,276 I am not prepared to rule on this now. 398 00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:10,112 - Your honor, in that I sense this is a little more 399 00:17:10,112 --> 00:17:11,197 than a delaying tactic. 400 00:17:11,197 --> 00:17:12,406 I'm prepared to withdraw from the case. 401 00:17:12,406 --> 00:17:15,159 My office will appoint another prosecutor. 402 00:17:15,159 --> 00:17:16,410 - Very well. 403 00:17:16,410 --> 00:17:18,246 - I would assume that all evidence related to this case 404 00:17:18,246 --> 00:17:20,248 be made available, be it inculpatory or exculpatory. 405 00:17:20,248 --> 00:17:22,208 I would also ask that at Thursday's hearing, 406 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:24,126 the court entertain an application for bail. 407 00:17:24,126 --> 00:17:26,212 - I believe that when Mr Levinson looks over 408 00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:29,090 the evidence, inculpatory and exculpatory, 409 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:31,342 he will decline to pursue his application for bail. 410 00:17:31,342 --> 00:17:33,094 - Why is that? 411 00:17:33,094 --> 00:17:36,097 - Mr. Morrison confessed. 412 00:17:36,097 --> 00:17:38,099 [chatter] 413 00:17:44,146 --> 00:17:45,481 - I'll see you back at the office. 414 00:17:45,481 --> 00:17:47,316 - Excuse me. 415 00:17:47,316 --> 00:17:49,360 You're Sandy's parents? 416 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:50,361 - Yes, we are. 417 00:17:50,361 --> 00:17:51,445 - I'm Jonah Burgee. 418 00:17:51,445 --> 00:17:54,240 It was my wife who was killed. 419 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,451 I want you to know that I'm not unaware of your pain 420 00:17:57,451 --> 00:17:59,328 in all of this. 421 00:17:59,328 --> 00:18:02,206 And I, certainly, don't want you to feel as though I'm going 422 00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:04,417 to be sitting here in court looking at you or your son, 423 00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:07,169 for that matter, with hatred. 424 00:18:07,169 --> 00:18:11,173 This is a tragedy, and it's a tragedy for all of us. 425 00:18:11,173 --> 00:18:13,134 - Yes, it is. 426 00:18:13,134 --> 00:18:15,136 - Thank you for saying that. 427 00:18:15,136 --> 00:18:16,429 - If Gail were here, she would have said it. 428 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:19,265 But since she isn't, I know that she would want me to. 429 00:18:24,478 --> 00:18:27,189 - Overall, I was pleased with yesterday. 430 00:18:27,189 --> 00:18:28,149 What about you? 431 00:18:28,149 --> 00:18:28,482 - I thought it went well. 432 00:18:28,482 --> 00:18:30,359 - McCafferty got to me. 433 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,277 - A little. 434 00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:32,403 It's OK though. 435 00:18:32,403 --> 00:18:34,238 - I didn't want him to get to me. 436 00:18:34,238 --> 00:18:36,198 - From the jury's perspective, it'll probably work 437 00:18:36,198 --> 00:18:37,325 to your advantage that he did. 438 00:18:37,325 --> 00:18:39,285 - Sylvia? 439 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:40,494 - Hello, Judith. 440 00:18:40,494 --> 00:18:43,414 - I didn't expect they'd have you sitting in court. 441 00:18:43,414 --> 00:18:46,167 - I am a member of the firm. 442 00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:48,169 - They're using you as window dressing, Sylvia. 443 00:18:48,169 --> 00:18:50,338 - I don't choose to see it that way, Judith. 444 00:18:50,338 --> 00:18:52,298 I believe I'm serving a useful function. 445 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:56,344 - May we join you? 446 00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:58,387 - I'd rather that you didn't. 447 00:18:58,387 --> 00:18:59,388 - OK. 448 00:18:59,388 --> 00:19:03,351 [chatter] 449 00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:10,232 - Could you tell us why an offer of partnership 450 00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:12,485 wasn't made to Judith Kincaid? 451 00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:14,403 - I'd say it was a combination of things. 452 00:19:14,403 --> 00:19:17,448 Her work was good, albeit, not exceptional. 453 00:19:17,448 --> 00:19:20,242 She demonstrated no real potential 454 00:19:20,242 --> 00:19:23,412 for generating business, and her personality 455 00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:24,580 most definitely hurt her. 456 00:19:24,580 --> 00:19:26,374 - In what way did it hurt her? 457 00:19:26,374 --> 00:19:28,250 - Those of us who worked with her found her 458 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,461 to be rather severe, cold even. 459 00:19:30,461 --> 00:19:32,421 And she had a low flash point. 460 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:36,217 She tended to be well, abrasive, bossy, ill tempered, 461 00:19:36,217 --> 00:19:38,552 not a lot of fun to be around. 462 00:19:38,552 --> 00:19:41,430 Given all that, we decided she wasn't partnership material. 463 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,432 - Was this determination influenced by the fact 464 00:19:43,432 --> 00:19:44,392 that she's a woman? 465 00:19:44,392 --> 00:19:46,268 - Absolutely not. 466 00:19:46,268 --> 00:19:48,312 If anything, I'd say it gave her an advantage. 467 00:19:48,312 --> 00:19:51,273 We're desperately trying to bring in some women partners. 468 00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:52,608 We're in law schools recruiting. 469 00:19:52,608 --> 00:19:55,486 We have more women associates at the firm 470 00:19:55,486 --> 00:19:57,488 now than at any time in the past history. 471 00:19:57,488 --> 00:20:00,491 And I think that at least one of them is going to make partner. 472 00:20:00,491 --> 00:20:03,285 Oh, I assure you, we want a woman. 473 00:20:03,285 --> 00:20:05,287 We just didn't want this woman. 474 00:20:05,287 --> 00:20:06,330 - I have nothing further. 475 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:12,253 - How many attorneys are there in your firm Mr. McIntyre? 476 00:20:12,253 --> 00:20:13,337 - 43. 477 00:20:13,337 --> 00:20:14,505 - How many partners? 478 00:20:14,505 --> 00:20:17,591 - 10 senior partners, 14 junior partners. 479 00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:20,344 - How many senior partners are women? 480 00:20:20,344 --> 00:20:21,429 - None. 481 00:20:21,429 --> 00:20:22,596 - How many junior partners are women? 482 00:20:22,596 --> 00:20:25,516 - I'm not unaware that there's a problem. 483 00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:29,270 We are in need of the humanizing influence a woman would bring. 484 00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:31,313 The right woman just hasn't come along. 485 00:20:31,313 --> 00:20:32,481 - The truth is, she doesn't exist. 486 00:20:32,481 --> 00:20:34,650 The attributes you want in a woman and the attributes 487 00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:36,610 you want in a lawyer are mutually exclusive. 488 00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:38,446 - Your honor. 489 00:20:38,446 --> 00:20:39,572 - What you've done is nothing more than to construct 490 00:20:39,572 --> 00:20:40,656 an elaborate pretext-- - Miss Kelsey 491 00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:42,450 - for never having to allow a woman 492 00:20:42,450 --> 00:20:44,493 into what you like to think of as your private club. 493 00:20:44,493 --> 00:20:46,412 - Look, I'm not going to be bullied by her, 494 00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,497 and I'm not going to be bullied by you. 495 00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,499 Every time you don't get what you want, 496 00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:52,334 it's because you're a woman, right? 497 00:20:52,334 --> 00:20:54,545 It's the glass ceiling, whatever that is. 498 00:20:54,545 --> 00:20:56,297 Well, you know what? 499 00:20:56,297 --> 00:20:58,507 I'm a little sick of all your whining. 500 00:20:58,507 --> 00:21:02,386 - Sick of all who's whining, Mr. McIntyre? 501 00:21:02,386 --> 00:21:03,596 - Forgive me, your honor, I didn't 502 00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:05,473 mean to speak in generalities. 503 00:21:05,473 --> 00:21:07,475 - I'm the one that asked the question, Mr. McIntyre, who's 504 00:21:07,475 --> 00:21:09,351 whining, were you referring to? 505 00:21:09,351 --> 00:21:10,561 - I was referring to the plaintiff, 506 00:21:10,561 --> 00:21:11,645 and only the plaintiff. 507 00:21:11,645 --> 00:21:13,564 - Your honor, at this time, I'd like 508 00:21:13,564 --> 00:21:15,649 to announce my intention to call Sylvia Reiner as a witness. 509 00:21:15,649 --> 00:21:17,485 - I object. 510 00:21:17,485 --> 00:21:18,569 Your honor, Sylvia Reiner is a member of the defense 511 00:21:18,569 --> 00:21:20,362 team in this case. 512 00:21:20,362 --> 00:21:21,614 - Your honor, I insist on being able to examine 513 00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:24,450 the policies of this firm as they pertain to women. 514 00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:26,452 I believe the jury is entitled to determine 515 00:21:26,452 --> 00:21:30,456 for themselves who it was Mr. McIntyre was referring to. 516 00:21:30,456 --> 00:21:33,334 - Given the lateness of the hour, we'll adjourn for today. 517 00:21:33,334 --> 00:21:34,543 When we convene again tomorrow morning, 518 00:21:34,543 --> 00:21:37,421 you may call Miss Reiner to the stand. 519 00:21:37,421 --> 00:21:39,340 The witness is excused. 520 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:40,341 Court is adjourned. 521 00:21:40,341 --> 00:21:43,344 [chatter] 522 00:21:45,471 --> 00:21:47,515 - My firm specializes in environmental law, 523 00:21:47,515 --> 00:21:49,600 and that's the field I'm primarily interested in. 524 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,353 - You have a good deal of litigation experience it seems. 525 00:21:52,353 --> 00:21:53,354 - Yes, I do. 526 00:21:53,354 --> 00:21:54,647 - Very impressive. 527 00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:57,399 - I appreciate you saying that, but before I'd consider 528 00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:59,401 joining this organization, there are a few things 529 00:21:59,401 --> 00:22:00,486 we'd have to address. 530 00:22:00,486 --> 00:22:01,570 - Like what? 531 00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:03,405 - The air in this building is bad, 532 00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:05,407 there has to be significantly better circulation. 533 00:22:05,407 --> 00:22:07,576 I require ergonomically correct seating for myself 534 00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:10,579 and my assistant, as well as radiation shielding for all 535 00:22:10,579 --> 00:22:12,581 the video display terminals. 536 00:22:12,581 --> 00:22:15,626 Look, it's one thing to take on environmental causes 537 00:22:15,626 --> 00:22:18,504 where deep pocket defendants are involved, 538 00:22:18,504 --> 00:22:21,549 it's another thing to put one's own affairs in order. 539 00:22:21,549 --> 00:22:27,346 In other words, are you prepared to walk it like you talk it? 540 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:28,514 - I don't believe we have a resume. 541 00:22:28,514 --> 00:22:30,432 - Forget the resume, I haven't been working 542 00:22:30,432 --> 00:22:31,559 for the last three years. 543 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:32,601 - What have you been doing? 544 00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:34,395 - I've been in jail. 545 00:22:34,395 --> 00:22:35,729 I was convicted of mail fraud. 546 00:22:35,729 --> 00:22:39,400 I served 28 months, now I'm out and I'm raring to go. 547 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,443 - How are you able to practice law 548 00:22:41,443 --> 00:22:43,445 if you were convicted of mail fraud? 549 00:22:43,445 --> 00:22:44,613 - I'm not able to practice law. 550 00:22:44,613 --> 00:22:47,491 What I am able to do is make a great deal of money 551 00:22:47,491 --> 00:22:49,535 in commercial real estate syndication. 552 00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:54,748 What I need is a base of operations from which to do it. 553 00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:57,501 [exhales sharply] 554 00:22:57,501 --> 00:22:59,461 - I guess I'd like to start off by asking 555 00:22:59,461 --> 00:23:00,504 about maternity leave. 556 00:23:03,424 --> 00:23:07,428 [distant sirens] 557 00:23:09,597 --> 00:23:11,765 - Ms. Kelsey? 558 00:23:11,765 --> 00:23:12,683 - Yes. 559 00:23:12,683 --> 00:23:14,476 Hi. 560 00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:16,687 - I wonder if I could talk to you for a minute. 561 00:23:16,687 --> 00:23:17,605 - Come in. 562 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:24,820 - I'd like to know what it is you hope to accomplish, really, 563 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:26,697 by calling me as a witness? 564 00:23:26,697 --> 00:23:28,741 - Exactly what I said I hoped to accomplish. 565 00:23:28,741 --> 00:23:31,535 To demonstrate that the way my client was treated 566 00:23:31,535 --> 00:23:33,829 is indicative of the way other women at your firm are treated. 567 00:23:33,829 --> 00:23:37,499 - I have no complaints about how I was treated. 568 00:23:37,499 --> 00:23:38,500 - I understand that. 569 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,461 - Then why call me as a witness? 570 00:23:40,461 --> 00:23:43,589 My testimony isn't going to affect the outcome of this case 571 00:23:43,589 --> 00:23:45,424 one way or another. 572 00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:48,719 - If I felt that way, I wouldn't call you as a witness. 573 00:23:48,719 --> 00:23:50,638 - You're a partner here, Ms. Kelsey? 574 00:23:50,638 --> 00:23:51,555 - Yes. 575 00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:53,474 - You're a partner. 576 00:23:53,474 --> 00:23:56,560 Judith could become a partner at any number of firms I'm sure. 577 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,813 You two are bright, successful young women. 578 00:23:59,813 --> 00:24:03,525 Why is it necessary for you to do this to me? 579 00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:05,569 Why is it necessary to humiliate me? 580 00:24:05,569 --> 00:24:07,613 - I'm not trying to humiliate you, Ms. Reiner. 581 00:24:07,613 --> 00:24:09,531 - That's what you're going to do. 582 00:24:09,531 --> 00:24:11,867 You're going to paint me as this poor, pathetic creature who's 583 00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:14,495 worked her entire adult life in return 584 00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:17,498 for whatever scraps these men have thrown her from the table. 585 00:24:17,498 --> 00:24:22,670 I don't want to be depicted that way, can you understand that? 586 00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:26,799 Obviously, it's not an issue of any significance. 587 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,761 [sad music] 588 00:24:34,682 --> 00:24:36,013 [exhales sharply] 589 00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:41,647 - Are you married, Ms. Reiner? - Objection. 590 00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:42,731 Irrelevant. 591 00:24:42,731 --> 00:24:44,525 - Your honor, I think the jury is 592 00:24:44,525 --> 00:24:45,776 entitled to view the totality of circumstances 593 00:24:45,776 --> 00:24:47,736 affecting this woman. 594 00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:48,904 - I'll allow it. 595 00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:50,572 - I'm divorced. 596 00:24:50,572 --> 00:24:51,824 - Do you have children? 597 00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:53,617 - I have three grown children. 598 00:24:53,617 --> 00:24:54,910 - How long have you been divorced? 599 00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:56,870 - Since 1970. 600 00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:58,664 - Who provided most of the income 601 00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:00,624 that you and your children lived on, Ms. Reiner? 602 00:25:00,624 --> 00:25:02,710 - I provided all the income. 603 00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:04,712 - What year did you come to work for Owen, 604 00:25:04,712 --> 00:25:06,505 Pierce, McIntyre, and Reynolds? 605 00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:07,715 - 1962. 606 00:25:07,715 --> 00:25:09,717 - And you remained there ever since as an associate, 607 00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:10,634 is that right? 608 00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:11,844 - Yes, I have. 609 00:25:11,844 --> 00:25:13,846 - Now as time went on, one of your responsibilities 610 00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:16,765 was to train other associates, wasn't it? 611 00:25:16,765 --> 00:25:18,642 - Yes. 612 00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:20,561 - Yet there were a variety of perquisites and privileges 613 00:25:20,561 --> 00:25:22,646 extended to other associates that weren't extended to you, 614 00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:23,814 weren't there? 615 00:25:23,814 --> 00:25:24,940 - I really have no complaints about the way 616 00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:26,567 I've been treated. 617 00:25:26,567 --> 00:25:27,693 - Were you given your own office? 618 00:25:27,693 --> 00:25:28,694 - No, I wasn't. 619 00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:29,695 - Your own secretary? 620 00:25:29,695 --> 00:25:30,821 - No. 621 00:25:30,821 --> 00:25:32,740 - Isn't it a fact, Ms. Reiner, that you 622 00:25:32,740 --> 00:25:35,576 make less money than associates whom you yourself have trained? 623 00:25:35,576 --> 00:25:36,952 - I wouldn't know the answer to that question. 624 00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:39,705 - Isn't it also a fact, Ms. Reiner, that until this trial, 625 00:25:39,705 --> 00:25:41,874 you were never once allowed to set foot in a courtroom? 626 00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:44,626 - As I said, I have no complaints. 627 00:25:44,626 --> 00:25:45,836 - Have you seen the evaluation that 628 00:25:45,836 --> 00:25:47,838 was made when you first came up for partnership 629 00:25:47,838 --> 00:25:49,590 review, Ms. Reiner? 630 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:50,591 - No, I haven't. 631 00:25:50,591 --> 00:25:51,884 - I have a copy of it here. 632 00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:54,595 I ask that it be admitted into evidence as plaintiff's exhibit 633 00:25:54,595 --> 00:25:55,554 number 5. 634 00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:56,597 - Objection. 635 00:25:56,597 --> 00:25:57,848 This evaluation is ancient history. 636 00:25:57,848 --> 00:25:59,725 Attitudes towards women across the board 637 00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:00,851 were totally different then. 638 00:26:00,851 --> 00:26:02,728 - I would maintain, your honor, that 639 00:26:02,728 --> 00:26:04,730 what we're here to determine is just how different they are. 640 00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:06,815 It seems to me that the only thing that's different 641 00:26:06,815 --> 00:26:08,776 is the degree of subterfuge those attitudes 642 00:26:08,776 --> 00:26:09,818 are concealed behind. 643 00:26:09,818 --> 00:26:12,905 - I'll allow it to come in. 644 00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:17,993 - I quote, "Sylvia is like most women, good with details, 645 00:26:17,993 --> 00:26:21,872 but utterly lacking in fire or leadership potential. 646 00:26:21,872 --> 00:26:24,750 Loyal as a Saint Bernard-- 647 00:26:24,750 --> 00:26:28,670 keep her chained to the doghouse, feed her once a day, 648 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:31,799 and she'll follow us anywhere. 649 00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:34,259 Definitely not partnership material, not even close." 650 00:26:38,764 --> 00:26:41,767 Would you agree with that characterization? 651 00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:44,812 - I have no complaints about the way I was treated. 652 00:26:44,812 --> 00:26:46,688 - Is it possible, Ms. Reiner, that 653 00:26:46,688 --> 00:26:47,981 having to raise three children on your own 654 00:26:47,981 --> 00:26:50,776 taught you to have no complaints? 655 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:53,862 - You have no right to do this. 656 00:26:53,862 --> 00:26:56,657 This is supposed to be about your life. 657 00:26:56,657 --> 00:27:00,911 You have no right to force me to talk about my life. 658 00:27:00,911 --> 00:27:03,747 - I apologize, Ms. Reiner. 659 00:27:03,747 --> 00:27:04,706 Nothing further. 660 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:10,796 [knock on door] 661 00:27:10,796 --> 00:27:12,673 - I'm looking for Beverly Halleran. 662 00:27:12,673 --> 00:27:13,924 - You found her. 663 00:27:13,924 --> 00:27:15,717 - I was told that you were assigned to the Morrison case. 664 00:27:15,717 --> 00:27:16,927 - Who are you? 665 00:27:16,927 --> 00:27:19,805 - I'm Eli Levinson, I'm representing Sandy Morrison. 666 00:27:19,805 --> 00:27:21,890 - Sit down. 667 00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:23,642 - I assume you know we're dealing 668 00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:24,726 with someone who's quite ill? 669 00:27:24,726 --> 00:27:25,727 - Are we? 670 00:27:25,727 --> 00:27:26,937 - Have you studied his file? 671 00:27:26,937 --> 00:27:27,938 - Yes. 672 00:27:27,938 --> 00:27:29,773 - Then what's the question? 673 00:27:29,773 --> 00:27:31,900 He's been institutionalized half a dozen times, 674 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:35,737 he's been diagnosed as a clinical bipolar depressive. 675 00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:37,739 You don't doubt that that was a factor, do you? 676 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:38,991 - A factor in what? 677 00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:43,829 - A factor in Morrison having killed Gail Burgee, assuming, 678 00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:45,038 of course, that he did. 679 00:27:45,038 --> 00:27:47,833 - Your client is a very dangerous man, Mr. Levinson. 680 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,918 I'm not interested in his clinical diagnosis, 681 00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:51,879 I'm interested in getting him off the street. 682 00:27:51,879 --> 00:27:53,755 - Me too. 683 00:27:53,755 --> 00:27:55,048 But the truth is, he never should have been on the street. 684 00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:56,758 - Well. 685 00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:58,010 - And if you force me to try this case, 686 00:27:58,010 --> 00:27:59,887 I will subpoena every shrink and hospital administrator 687 00:27:59,887 --> 00:28:01,763 this kid ever saw. 688 00:28:01,763 --> 00:28:03,056 Anyone who had anything to do with putting him on the street 689 00:28:03,056 --> 00:28:04,725 will be called as a witness. 690 00:28:04,725 --> 00:28:06,018 I'll make this trial about how Sandy 691 00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:08,729 Morrison got to be a killer, not whether or not he was one. 692 00:28:08,729 --> 00:28:10,814 - You can try to make it about that, Mr. Levinson. 693 00:28:10,814 --> 00:28:12,816 Whether you succeed or not depends on the judge. 694 00:28:12,816 --> 00:28:14,109 - You're right, and I'm more than 695 00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:17,029 willing to take that chance. 696 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:19,865 - What is it you're looking for? 697 00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,950 - Not guilty by reason of insanity. 698 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:25,037 Long-term commitment to a secure mental hospital. 699 00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:26,955 Come on, that should satisfy your need 700 00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:29,875 to get him off the street and my need to get him some help. 701 00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:31,084 - I have your assurance you won't fight 702 00:28:31,084 --> 00:28:32,836 me on the issue of confinement? 703 00:28:32,836 --> 00:28:33,837 - Absolutely. 704 00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:38,842 - OK. 705 00:28:38,842 --> 00:28:40,844 He pleads guilty in court, I won't oppose it, 706 00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:42,763 and we'll schedule a commitment hearing. 707 00:28:42,763 --> 00:28:44,806 He also remains in custody until such time 708 00:28:44,806 --> 00:28:46,934 as he can be transferred to a mental hospital. 709 00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:47,851 - Agreed. 710 00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:52,856 - OK. 711 00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:55,067 Well, nice doing business with you, counselor. 712 00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:56,818 - Nice doing business with you. 713 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:03,951 - Are you sure I can't interest you in a little wine? 714 00:29:03,951 --> 00:29:05,160 They've got a great selection. 715 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,080 - Thank you, no, I don't drink. 716 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,957 - Everything God created is good, 717 00:29:09,957 --> 00:29:11,833 and nothing is to be rejected if it's 718 00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:12,960 received with thanksgiving. 719 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,879 1 Timothy, Chapter 4. 720 00:29:15,879 --> 00:29:19,007 - Why did you ask me to lunch, Mr. Becker? 721 00:29:19,007 --> 00:29:21,802 - I was very impressed with you the other day. 722 00:29:21,802 --> 00:29:23,053 I was hoping I could interest you 723 00:29:23,053 --> 00:29:26,974 in the field of matrimonial law, working directly under me, 724 00:29:26,974 --> 00:29:28,892 so to speak. 725 00:29:28,892 --> 00:29:30,769 - Does that mean I have the job? 726 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:32,062 - Well, partners still have to vote on it, 727 00:29:32,062 --> 00:29:34,815 but I'd say you're a pretty serious contender. 728 00:29:34,815 --> 00:29:38,193 - Well, maybe we better wait until they've made a decision. 729 00:29:38,193 --> 00:29:41,947 - Are you involved with anyone at the present time? 730 00:29:41,947 --> 00:29:43,198 - No, I'm not. 731 00:29:43,198 --> 00:29:48,036 - Well, praise the Lord, as it happens, neither am I. 732 00:29:48,036 --> 00:29:51,957 - Um, Mr. Becker, am I correct in assuming that you're 733 00:29:51,957 --> 00:29:55,168 interested in entering into some sort of romantic relationship 734 00:29:55,168 --> 00:29:57,045 with me? 735 00:29:57,045 --> 00:29:59,131 - Possible inappropriateness of such candor notwithstanding, 736 00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:02,884 interested would be far too mild of a word. 737 00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:05,095 - Please understand something, I don't 738 00:30:05,095 --> 00:30:07,139 believe in recreational sex. 739 00:30:07,139 --> 00:30:09,057 - Do not deprive each other so that you may 740 00:30:09,057 --> 00:30:10,976 devote yourselves to prayer. 741 00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:13,854 Come together so that Satan will not tempt you because 742 00:30:13,854 --> 00:30:15,022 of your lack of self control. 743 00:30:15,022 --> 00:30:17,232 1 Corinthians Chapter 7. 744 00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:19,151 - Paul's letter to the Corinthians 745 00:30:19,151 --> 00:30:21,069 was referring to married couples. 746 00:30:21,069 --> 00:30:24,031 - But the principle still obtains, does it not? 747 00:30:24,031 --> 00:30:27,909 - No, Mr. Becker, it does not. 748 00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:29,119 I'm a virgin. 749 00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:32,164 I'm a virgin by choice, and I will remain a virgin 750 00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:35,208 until the night of my wedding. 751 00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:39,129 Now, if there's nothing else we need to discuss, 752 00:30:39,129 --> 00:30:40,964 I'd like to go. 753 00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:44,134 I do hope you'll still consider me for the position, 754 00:30:44,134 --> 00:30:47,220 and I hope that you'll be able to confine our relationship 755 00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:49,222 should I get the position to one strictly 756 00:30:49,222 --> 00:30:52,934 professional in nature. 757 00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:55,812 And I also hope that you will continue to read the Bible. 758 00:31:02,903 --> 00:31:05,280 - I got it, she's a virgin. 759 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,990 Woo! 760 00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:08,283 - There are those who will tell you 761 00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:11,078 that Judith Kincaid is in here asking for special treatment. 762 00:31:11,078 --> 00:31:13,288 I'm here to tell you that the reason Judith Kincaid has come 763 00:31:13,288 --> 00:31:15,165 into this courtroom is that she's already 764 00:31:15,165 --> 00:31:17,084 gotten special treatment. 765 00:31:17,084 --> 00:31:19,920 She has been judged, not as an attorney, 766 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,213 but as a woman attorney. 767 00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:24,216 She found herself being punished for the very 768 00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:27,260 same behavior for which male associates were rewarded. 769 00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:30,180 They were assertive, she was abrasive. 770 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:33,934 They showed leadership, she was bossy. 771 00:31:33,934 --> 00:31:37,938 They were businesslike, she was cold. 772 00:31:37,938 --> 00:31:40,232 Nobody told her when she first interviewed with the firm 773 00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:42,984 that she would be judged not on how hard she worked, 774 00:31:42,984 --> 00:31:45,070 but on how much fun she was to be around. 775 00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:47,155 Nobody told her that her failure to smile 776 00:31:47,155 --> 00:31:49,157 or her lack of interest in sports 777 00:31:49,157 --> 00:31:51,201 would represent an insurmountable obstacle 778 00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:52,285 to advancement. 779 00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:55,080 And the reason nobody told her was 780 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,291 that the men who interviewed her wanted her to work for them. 781 00:31:58,291 --> 00:32:01,086 They knew that this was a bright, driven 782 00:32:01,086 --> 00:32:04,047 attorney who could be depended upon to work her tail off. 783 00:32:04,047 --> 00:32:05,966 They knew that it would be six or seven years 784 00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:07,217 before they'd have to tell her that she 785 00:32:07,217 --> 00:32:09,094 wasn't going to make partner. 786 00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:12,139 They knew what a good deal they had here. 787 00:32:12,139 --> 00:32:14,057 They had only to look at the deal 788 00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:15,142 they had with Sylvia Reiner. 789 00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,105 Now, I have no doubt but that the man of Owen, Pierce, 790 00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:22,232 McIntyre, and Reynolds are made somewhat uncomfortable 791 00:32:22,232 --> 00:32:23,316 by Judith Kincaid. 792 00:32:23,316 --> 00:32:25,193 I have no doubt that they are more 793 00:32:25,193 --> 00:32:28,238 comfortable having as partners other men like themselves. 794 00:32:28,238 --> 00:32:32,325 We ask that you consider the cost of that comfort. 795 00:32:32,325 --> 00:32:35,996 We ask that you look at the lives that are expended 796 00:32:35,996 --> 00:32:38,039 without recognition or reward. 797 00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,083 We ask that you do something about it. 798 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:50,051 - When Judith Kincaid came to work at Owen, 799 00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:51,303 Pierce, McIntyre, and Reynolds, what 800 00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:54,306 did she have a right to expect? 801 00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:57,142 She had the right to expect to be paid fairly 802 00:32:57,142 --> 00:33:00,020 and to be given the same opportunities as 803 00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:02,272 other associates at the firm. 804 00:33:02,272 --> 00:33:05,066 The fact that she was judged and found wanting 805 00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:08,236 does not translate into an act of discrimination. 806 00:33:08,236 --> 00:33:13,241 Her work was satisfactory, her demeanor less so. 807 00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:16,119 Given the range of candidates, the senior partners chose who 808 00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:17,412 they felt were best qualified. 809 00:33:17,412 --> 00:33:19,247 They made a decision. 810 00:33:19,247 --> 00:33:22,167 So long as there were legitimate reasons for that decision, 811 00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:24,336 they were wholly within their rights to make it. 812 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:28,048 Now, if you decide otherwise, if you compensate Judith Kincaid 813 00:33:28,048 --> 00:33:30,217 for this alleged wrong, by extension, 814 00:33:30,217 --> 00:33:34,221 you will hurt the prospects of all women who work. 815 00:33:34,221 --> 00:33:37,224 You will presume by inference that women can't be judged 816 00:33:37,224 --> 00:33:39,184 honestly, that they can't compete 817 00:33:39,184 --> 00:33:41,144 on the basis of their own abilities, 818 00:33:41,144 --> 00:33:45,273 that they need attorneys shepherding their progress. 819 00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:50,278 Now, I believe that hard work and talent will result in women 820 00:33:50,278 --> 00:33:53,240 taking their rightful place alongside men 821 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,158 in all strata of society. 822 00:33:55,158 --> 00:34:01,248 But in order for that to happen, they must be permitted to fail. 823 00:34:01,248 --> 00:34:02,457 And all of us who work for a living, 824 00:34:02,457 --> 00:34:04,334 stand on our own two feet. 825 00:34:04,334 --> 00:34:08,213 We all vie for promotions, we are all subject to the judgment 826 00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:09,339 of others. 827 00:34:09,339 --> 00:34:11,299 If we get knocked down, we get back up, 828 00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:14,052 brush ourselves off, get back into the ring. 829 00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:21,268 We learn from our failures, we learn from our mistakes. 830 00:34:21,268 --> 00:34:24,104 Let Judith Kincaid do the very same thing. 831 00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:28,108 [soft music] 832 00:34:28,108 --> 00:34:28,483 - You like this place? 833 00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:30,402 - Yeah, it's nice. 834 00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:32,195 - I know the owner. - Oh yeah? 835 00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:33,280 - Yeah. - Hmm. 836 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,198 - Where are you from in New York? 837 00:34:35,198 --> 00:34:36,199 - Queens. 838 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:37,242 - Get out of here. - Yeah. 839 00:34:37,242 --> 00:34:38,493 [chuckles] - What? 840 00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:40,203 - I can't believe I'm sitting here in LA with a chick 841 00:34:40,203 --> 00:34:41,371 from Queens. - And why is that? 842 00:34:41,371 --> 00:34:42,455 - Where do you think I'm from? 843 00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:44,332 - I have no idea where you're from. 844 00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:46,126 - I'm from Bayside. - Get out of here. 845 00:34:46,126 --> 00:34:47,127 - Yeah. [laughter] 846 00:34:47,127 --> 00:34:48,295 - Excuse me. 847 00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:49,421 You just got ticketed. 848 00:34:49,421 --> 00:34:50,463 - What do you mean, you just got ticketed? 849 00:34:50,463 --> 00:34:51,464 - They're giving out tickets. 850 00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:55,135 - Well, send Matty in here. 851 00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:56,219 - What's going on? 852 00:34:56,219 --> 00:34:57,387 - I'm handling the parking here. 853 00:34:57,387 --> 00:34:59,389 - What do yo mean, you're handling the parking? 854 00:34:59,389 --> 00:35:02,183 - Well, I have a valet parking service, among other things. 855 00:35:02,183 --> 00:35:05,270 I mean, last week, I did parties at Eddie Van Halen's, Mickey 856 00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:07,230 Rourke's, and at Stallone's. 857 00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:08,481 - I'm impressed. 858 00:35:08,481 --> 00:35:10,358 - Yeah, I know, sometimes I can't believe it myself. 859 00:35:10,358 --> 00:35:12,485 - I don't know what's going on, Anthony, suddenly they're 860 00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:14,237 handing out parking tickets. 861 00:35:14,237 --> 00:35:15,488 - What, do I have to do everything myself? 862 00:35:15,488 --> 00:35:17,240 - No, you don't. 863 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,326 Excuse me for the interruption here. 864 00:35:19,326 --> 00:35:21,369 - Hey, Matty, just give the meter maid $100 865 00:35:21,369 --> 00:35:23,288 or park it somewhere else. 866 00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,206 - $100, I'm going to wind up in a jackpot, I give him $100 867 00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:26,207 - Then you win a jackpot. 868 00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:27,250 Go ahead. 869 00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:30,128 - All right, I'll take care of it. 870 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,172 - So you're working now? - Do I look like I'm working? 871 00:35:32,172 --> 00:35:33,298 - Yeah, you do. - Hey? 872 00:35:33,298 --> 00:35:35,175 - What? 873 00:35:35,175 --> 00:35:38,470 - I'm sitting here entranced and entrapped by a gorgeous woman 874 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:40,430 from the borough of Queens. 875 00:35:40,430 --> 00:35:42,223 - So it's just a coincidence that we 876 00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:43,516 came to this restaurant? 877 00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:45,143 - Well, what do you think? 878 00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:46,269 - What do I think? 879 00:35:46,269 --> 00:35:48,229 I think I'm remembering all the reasons why 880 00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:49,564 I never wanted to end up with a guy from Queens, that's 881 00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:51,232 what I think. 882 00:35:51,232 --> 00:35:52,275 - Hey, how'd you like to meet Sly? 883 00:35:52,275 --> 00:35:53,526 - Anthony? - What? 884 00:35:53,526 --> 00:35:55,445 - I hate to bother you, but Matty's getting arrested. 885 00:35:55,445 --> 00:35:56,529 - Yeah, for what? 886 00:35:56,529 --> 00:35:58,448 - He offered money to the meter maid. 887 00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:00,200 - This is what I get for bringing 888 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,242 these meatballs out here. 889 00:36:01,242 --> 00:36:02,160 Go ahead. 890 00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:07,499 Listen, give me five minutes, all right? 891 00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:09,376 I'll straighten everything out. 892 00:36:09,376 --> 00:36:13,296 I come back, we finish the meal, we'll head out to Nicky Blair's 893 00:36:13,296 --> 00:36:16,257 and we'll hang out with Sly. 894 00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:17,217 All right, gorgeous? 895 00:36:17,217 --> 00:36:17,550 - Aight. 896 00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:19,386 - Aight? 897 00:36:19,386 --> 00:36:20,345 Be right back. 898 00:36:20,345 --> 00:36:22,555 [chatter] 899 00:36:22,555 --> 00:36:23,515 - God. 900 00:36:27,227 --> 00:36:28,228 [exhales sharply] 901 00:36:28,228 --> 00:36:29,229 - Oh yeah? 902 00:36:29,229 --> 00:36:29,562 [chuckles] 903 00:36:29,562 --> 00:36:30,522 All right? 904 00:36:30,522 --> 00:36:31,439 Yeah. 905 00:36:31,439 --> 00:36:34,526 - Yes, absolutely. 906 00:36:42,242 --> 00:36:45,370 [chatter] 907 00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:47,361 [laughter] 908 00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:51,501 Phil Garabedian? 909 00:36:51,501 --> 00:36:52,419 - Too green. 910 00:36:52,419 --> 00:36:53,461 - I agree. 911 00:36:53,461 --> 00:36:54,587 Lloyd Hassock? 912 00:36:54,587 --> 00:36:56,256 - A prima donna. 913 00:36:56,256 --> 00:36:57,424 - I agree with that too. 914 00:36:57,424 --> 00:36:59,300 Jane Halliday? 915 00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:00,260 - Pass. 916 00:37:00,260 --> 00:37:01,386 - Why pass? 917 00:37:01,386 --> 00:37:03,263 - Because she's a member of the religious right. 918 00:37:03,263 --> 00:37:04,556 - Wait a second, all we know is that she's a young woman 919 00:37:04,556 --> 00:37:06,307 who happens to believe in God. 920 00:37:06,307 --> 00:37:07,350 - Is that all we know? 921 00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:09,519 She went to Bob Jones University. 922 00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:11,354 - Yeah? 923 00:37:11,354 --> 00:37:13,523 - Ask her her position on freedom of choice for women. 924 00:37:13,523 --> 00:37:15,483 Ask her her position on homosexuality. 925 00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:17,569 - She's not being nominated for the Supreme Court, Ann. 926 00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:19,362 We're looking for a first year associate. 927 00:37:19,362 --> 00:37:20,530 - Wait a minute. 928 00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:22,282 Whatever the relative merits of this woman, 929 00:37:22,282 --> 00:37:23,491 I think the fact that Ann is as adamantly 930 00:37:23,491 --> 00:37:25,618 opposed to her as she is should account for something. 931 00:37:25,618 --> 00:37:27,579 - So you're saying we shouldn't consider her? 932 00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:29,372 - I'm saying we shouldn't consider her. 933 00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:31,332 If we can dismiss those other people out of hand, 934 00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:33,418 we can dismiss her out of hand. - Tell me something, Stuart. 935 00:37:33,418 --> 00:37:35,462 How would you feel if we were talking about a Jew? 936 00:37:35,462 --> 00:37:37,297 - Not the same thing. 937 00:37:37,297 --> 00:37:38,339 - Not the same thing? 938 00:37:38,339 --> 00:37:40,341 Exactly the same thing. 939 00:37:40,341 --> 00:37:43,636 This woman hasn't said one word about abortion or homosexuality 940 00:37:43,636 --> 00:37:45,305 or anything else. 941 00:37:45,305 --> 00:37:46,598 What you're doing is exactly what 942 00:37:46,598 --> 00:37:48,600 all those white-shoe downtown firms do when they sit around 943 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,519 and refuse to consider tainting themselves by allowing 944 00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,396 a Jew in their midst. 945 00:37:53,396 --> 00:37:55,440 It's exactly the same thing, and the two of you know it. 946 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,609 - It appears that since we started interviewing, 947 00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:00,695 she's far and away the best candidate we've seen, 948 00:38:00,695 --> 00:38:02,572 and we need to hire someone. 949 00:38:02,572 --> 00:38:05,658 If she starts proselytizing, well, we'll tell her to stop. 950 00:38:05,658 --> 00:38:08,536 If she doesn't stop, we'll get rid of her. 951 00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:09,621 I vote we hire her. 952 00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:10,622 - So do I. 953 00:38:10,622 --> 00:38:12,457 - I vote no. - Me too. 954 00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:14,334 - I can't see keeping her out because of her beliefs. 955 00:38:14,334 --> 00:38:15,502 I vote to hire her. 956 00:38:15,502 --> 00:38:17,504 - Four to three, right, Arnold? 957 00:38:17,504 --> 00:38:18,588 - Four to three. 958 00:38:18,588 --> 00:38:20,298 - You let her know, Douglas? 959 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:21,424 - Yes, I will. 960 00:38:21,424 --> 00:38:24,385 - Also, see if she's free to start Monday. 961 00:38:24,385 --> 00:38:26,387 And also, find out when they're supposed to be 962 00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:28,598 done with this renovation. 963 00:38:28,598 --> 00:38:31,434 - Tell me, Arnie, is it possible you would have made a slightly 964 00:38:31,434 --> 00:38:32,685 less impassioned speech if you hadn't 965 00:38:32,685 --> 00:38:34,354 wanted to go to bed with her? 966 00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:35,480 - I resent that. 967 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,564 - Are you saying you have no interest 968 00:38:36,564 --> 00:38:38,399 in going to bed with her? 969 00:38:38,399 --> 00:38:40,485 - I'm saying that the thought never crossed my mind. 970 00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:43,655 [exhales sharply] 971 00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:46,533 [chatter] 972 00:38:49,536 --> 00:38:50,703 - Have you tasted these things? 973 00:38:50,703 --> 00:38:51,704 - What? 974 00:38:51,704 --> 00:38:54,374 - These, California bagels. 975 00:38:54,374 --> 00:38:56,543 Look at this, raisin, blueberry. 976 00:38:56,543 --> 00:38:59,379 I don't know what this one is, it's red. 977 00:38:59,379 --> 00:39:00,630 Bluh, it's like cotton. 978 00:39:00,630 --> 00:39:02,382 - I hate to tell you, Eli, but not 979 00:39:02,382 --> 00:39:03,591 everybody likes hard bagels. 980 00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:04,717 - HandH, they are not. 981 00:39:04,717 --> 00:39:06,553 Kossar's Bialys, they are not. - Eli? 982 00:39:06,553 --> 00:39:08,638 - Barney Greengrass's Sturgeon King, they are not. 983 00:39:08,638 --> 00:39:10,390 - Eli? - What? 984 00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:11,558 - I have something to tell you, that's what. 985 00:39:11,558 --> 00:39:13,393 - Last night I was at this restaurant, 986 00:39:13,393 --> 00:39:15,395 and the husband of the woman who your client was 987 00:39:15,395 --> 00:39:16,563 charged with killing was there. 988 00:39:16,563 --> 00:39:18,439 - Yeah? 989 00:39:18,439 --> 00:39:20,400 - Well, it looked like the mourning period was over. 990 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,484 - What do you mean? 991 00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:23,611 - He was with this hot tomato, and they 992 00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:25,530 were all over each other. 993 00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:27,532 They were drinking, grabbing, kissing. 994 00:39:27,532 --> 00:39:28,783 I mean, it was like nauseating already. 995 00:39:28,783 --> 00:39:30,451 - Huh. 996 00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:31,494 - I mean, if it was me who died, I 997 00:39:31,494 --> 00:39:32,579 wouldn't want my grieving husband 998 00:39:32,579 --> 00:39:33,788 doing what this guy was doing. 999 00:39:33,788 --> 00:39:35,498 - Good morning. 1000 00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:37,458 - Leland, this is my secretary, Denise. 1001 00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:38,501 - Well, how do you do, Denise? 1002 00:39:38,501 --> 00:39:39,586 - Hey, Leland, how you doing? 1003 00:39:39,586 --> 00:39:41,462 It's OK if I call you Leland? 1004 00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:42,422 - Of course. 1005 00:39:42,422 --> 00:39:42,755 Yeah. 1006 00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:43,715 - Cool. 1007 00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:46,467 see ya. 1008 00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:47,427 - Cool. 1009 00:39:51,472 --> 00:39:54,559 [chatter] 1010 00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:04,652 - I need to talk to you, Sandy. 1011 00:40:04,652 --> 00:40:07,488 I can either plead insanity or I can plead not guilty. 1012 00:40:07,488 --> 00:40:09,574 I need to know from you what you want me to do. 1013 00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:11,492 - Don't ask me. 1014 00:40:11,492 --> 00:40:13,828 - I've got to ask you, it's you who's accused of murder, 1015 00:40:13,828 --> 00:40:16,497 it's your life that's on the line. 1016 00:40:16,497 --> 00:40:19,709 - They didn't let me finish my breakfast this morning. 1017 00:40:19,709 --> 00:40:21,753 - Do you understand the nature of these proceedings? 1018 00:40:21,753 --> 00:40:22,795 - Took away my cereal. 1019 00:40:22,795 --> 00:40:24,756 I wasn't done with it yet. 1020 00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:28,593 - Sandy, do you understand? 1021 00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:34,724 - What you have to understand, Mr. Levinson, is I don't care. 1022 00:40:34,724 --> 00:40:37,727 - Did you confess because you didn't care? 1023 00:40:37,727 --> 00:40:39,479 - Court will come to order. 1024 00:40:39,479 --> 00:40:41,522 Judge Rona Shay is presiding. 1025 00:40:41,522 --> 00:40:44,734 First case on the docket, People versus Morrison. 1026 00:40:44,734 --> 00:40:46,736 - Please be seated. 1027 00:40:46,736 --> 00:40:48,780 Where do we stand on this case, Ms. Halleran? 1028 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:50,740 - Mr. Morrison has indicated, through counsel, 1029 00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:53,785 that he is interested in entering a plea of insanity. 1030 00:40:53,785 --> 00:40:56,496 The people are prepared to agree to such a plea, 1031 00:40:56,496 --> 00:40:57,830 provided the defendant's confinement 1032 00:40:57,830 --> 00:41:00,875 to a secure facility remains continuous and unopposed. 1033 00:41:00,875 --> 00:41:01,751 - Mr. Levinson? 1034 00:41:07,632 --> 00:41:09,717 Mr. Levinson? 1035 00:41:09,717 --> 00:41:11,511 - The defense will not be entering 1036 00:41:11,511 --> 00:41:12,762 a plea of insanity, your honor. 1037 00:41:12,762 --> 00:41:14,806 At this time, we would like to enter a plea of not guilty. 1038 00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:16,516 - Excuse me? 1039 00:41:16,516 --> 00:41:17,725 - Set down for trial, October 21. 1040 00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:19,686 - The defense would like to make an application 1041 00:41:19,686 --> 00:41:20,770 for bail, your honor. 1042 00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:21,854 - Denied. 1043 00:41:21,854 --> 00:41:24,565 The defendant's remanded to custody. 1044 00:41:24,565 --> 00:41:25,775 Next case. 1045 00:41:25,775 --> 00:41:26,818 - Next case on the docket. 1046 00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:27,735 - Can I go now? 1047 00:41:27,735 --> 00:41:29,779 - Yeah. 1048 00:41:29,779 --> 00:41:31,656 Hey? 1049 00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:33,616 [chatter] 1050 00:41:33,616 --> 00:41:34,575 Here. 1051 00:41:34,575 --> 00:41:36,786 [chatter] 1052 00:41:46,629 --> 00:41:48,840 - You talk out of both sides of your mouth, Mr. Levinson. 1053 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,882 - I had a change of heart. 1054 00:41:49,882 --> 00:41:51,634 - Oh, did you? 1055 00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:52,844 Well, in the future, I would appreciate it 1056 00:41:52,844 --> 00:41:54,721 if you wouldn't go through the pretense 1057 00:41:54,721 --> 00:41:56,681 of giving me your word, since, quite 1058 00:41:56,681 --> 00:41:58,599 apparently, it's worthless. 1059 00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,601 - You'll forgive me if my client's future is 1060 00:42:00,601 --> 00:42:02,645 a somewhat greater significance to me than remaining 1061 00:42:02,645 --> 00:42:03,813 in your good graces. 1062 00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:05,606 - You think you have a shot at an acquittal? 1063 00:42:05,606 --> 00:42:06,816 Good luck. 1064 00:42:06,816 --> 00:42:08,818 You also thought getting Tommy Mullaney off this case 1065 00:42:08,818 --> 00:42:10,611 helped your chances, well, I think you may have 1066 00:42:10,611 --> 00:42:11,738 miscalculated there as well. 1067 00:42:16,576 --> 00:42:17,785 - Has the jury reached a verdict? 1068 00:42:17,785 --> 00:42:19,620 - We have, your honor. 1069 00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:21,706 - How say you? 1070 00:42:21,706 --> 00:42:26,669 - We find, for the plaintiff, an award the sum of $1.5 million. 1071 00:42:26,669 --> 00:42:28,629 - On the issue of specific performance, 1072 00:42:28,629 --> 00:42:31,591 the court rules the firm of Owen, Pierce, McIntyre, 1073 00:42:31,591 --> 00:42:33,676 and Reynolds is hereby compelled to make 1074 00:42:33,676 --> 00:42:37,555 an offer of full partnership to Judith Kincaid. 1075 00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:39,599 With that, we are adjourned. 1076 00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:39,932 [knocking on gavel] 1077 00:42:39,932 --> 00:42:41,809 [chatter] 1078 00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:45,772 - I don't want this thing to drag out. 1079 00:42:45,772 --> 00:42:46,856 Get rid of her as soon as you can. 1080 00:42:46,856 --> 00:42:48,733 - You got it. 1081 00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:50,860 - Sylvia, I'm sorry to have put you through testifying. 1082 00:42:50,860 --> 00:42:52,945 If I thought of what it was going to be like for you, 1083 00:42:52,945 --> 00:42:54,739 I never would have done it. 1084 00:42:54,739 --> 00:42:56,657 - Given the outcome of the case, it's a good thing 1085 00:42:56,657 --> 00:42:57,784 you didn't think about it. 1086 00:42:57,784 --> 00:42:59,786 - We should schedule a meeting, Ms. Kelsey. 1087 00:42:59,786 --> 00:43:00,912 - For what purpose? 1088 00:43:00,912 --> 00:43:02,830 - For the purpose of determining how much 1089 00:43:02,830 --> 00:43:05,917 more time and effort is going to be consumed by this lawsuit. 1090 00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:07,877 - If there's a willingness on your client's part 1091 00:43:07,877 --> 00:43:09,712 to waive the partnership offer, we 1092 00:43:09,712 --> 00:43:11,631 would consider foregoing any appeals 1093 00:43:11,631 --> 00:43:14,675 and paying her the money damages in full. 1094 00:43:14,675 --> 00:43:16,719 - Judith? 1095 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,638 - I think I'd probably agree to that. 1096 00:43:18,638 --> 00:43:20,681 - I thought you might. 1097 00:43:20,681 --> 00:43:22,642 Come on, Syl, let's go. 1098 00:43:22,642 --> 00:43:25,770 [sad music] 1099 00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:35,696 [knock on door] 1100 00:43:35,696 --> 00:43:36,656 - Hey. 1101 00:43:36,656 --> 00:43:37,949 So? 1102 00:43:37,949 --> 00:43:40,701 - Looks like we're going to trial. 1103 00:43:40,701 --> 00:43:42,870 I don't think my client is guilty. 1104 00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:45,832 - What about his-- his confession? 1105 00:43:45,832 --> 00:43:48,626 - I think he signed it because he was nuts. 1106 00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:50,670 And I think I have another suspect. 1107 00:43:50,670 --> 00:43:51,879 - Who? 1108 00:43:51,879 --> 00:43:53,923 - The husband. 1109 00:43:53,923 --> 00:43:58,761 - So it looks like you're going to be around for a while. 1110 00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:00,680 - Looks that way. 1111 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,639 - Good. 1112 00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:02,890 Good. 1113 00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:05,643 - Do you remember the last time we saw each other, Stuart? 1114 00:44:07,854 --> 00:44:09,897 It was my grandmother's funeral. 1115 00:44:09,897 --> 00:44:11,983 We went back to Aunt Ida's to sit shiva, 1116 00:44:11,983 --> 00:44:14,694 and you and I went upstairs to play Risk. 1117 00:44:14,694 --> 00:44:17,822 - Aunt Ida, ooh. 1118 00:44:17,822 --> 00:44:18,990 You remember all that? 1119 00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:21,784 - Yeah. 1120 00:44:21,784 --> 00:44:22,910 - Good. 1121 00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:24,996 - It's odd, things remember, isn't it? 1122 00:44:24,996 --> 00:44:27,081 This guy that I came out here to represent, 1123 00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:29,750 he sits there in a psychotic haze 1124 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:31,794 and remembers these seemingly trivial events 1125 00:44:31,794 --> 00:44:33,004 that appear to have no relationship 1126 00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:34,881 to what's going on around him. 1127 00:44:34,881 --> 00:44:37,008 And everyone sits there and looks at him as though he 1128 00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:38,634 were on another planet. 1129 00:44:41,762 --> 00:44:43,723 Two years ago, I had a nervous breakdown, 1130 00:44:43,723 --> 00:44:50,771 Stuart, and that's the way everyone used to look at me. 1131 00:44:50,771 --> 00:44:51,939 - Looks like you've recovered. 1132 00:44:51,939 --> 00:44:53,774 [chuckles] 1133 00:44:53,774 --> 00:44:55,860 - About 90% of the time I feel like I have. 1134 00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:57,069 [chuckles] 1135 00:44:57,069 --> 00:44:59,947 - You wanna go out, you want to get something to eat? 1136 00:44:59,947 --> 00:45:01,115 - Thanks, I don't think so. 1137 00:45:01,115 --> 00:45:02,992 - Look, I-- I know you don't believe this, 1138 00:45:02,992 --> 00:45:06,829 but we have some very good restaurants in Los Angeles. 1139 00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:08,748 - Let's do it another night. 1140 00:45:08,748 --> 00:45:10,082 I got some files to read through, 1141 00:45:10,082 --> 00:45:11,918 and when I get done with that, I think 1142 00:45:11,918 --> 00:45:13,836 I'm going to go for a walk. 1143 00:45:13,836 --> 00:45:14,921 - A walk? 1144 00:45:14,921 --> 00:45:17,924 Eli, this is LA, nobody walks in LA. 1145 00:45:17,924 --> 00:45:20,885 - I think I'm going to anyway. 1146 00:45:20,885 --> 00:45:23,930 - Listen, I-- I-- 1147 00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:26,849 I just want to tell you that whether you're here 1148 00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:29,018 for a week or a month or whatever, 1149 00:45:29,018 --> 00:45:33,814 Ann and I are your family, and happily so. 1150 00:45:33,814 --> 00:45:38,819 So I-- I just want you to think of us that way, OK? 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